Everyone talks about mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. No one on this forum has yet to talk about the injustices done to American, British and Coalition troops and civilians.

After watching on video, an American civilian being beheaded, it makes me want to go to Iraq and kill every living thing there. The media makes a big stir over a few photos of Iraqis and Terrorists being mistreated, they don't mention the way our soldiers and civilians were tortured, burned, hanged, dragged through the streets, etc. The media needs to shut the flock up and report the news accurately. :mad: :mad:

Everyone talks about mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. No one on this forum has yet to talk about the injustices done to American, British and Coalition troops and civilians.

After watching on video, an American civilian being beheaded, it makes me want to go to Iraq and kill every living thing there. The media makes a big stir over a few photos of Iraqis and Terrorists being mistreated, they don't mention the way our soldiers and civilians were tortured, burned, hanged, dragged through the streets, etc. The media needs to shut the flock up and report the news accurately. :mad: :mad:
Yea those darn Iraqis should just shut up and let us kill them. Why did they do all those bad things to those US soldiers and civilians if all they wanted to do is kill them and their families. If I hear about one more american being killed by an Iraqi, I am going to go to a nursery and shoot all those f'in babys :mad: .

I saw the video last night and it was absolutely awful. For the record guys I have no interest in this video being put on our site. It was and is something I have no wish to see again.

This is one of the most disgusting and sick stories I've ever seen in the press and its one of those things that makes me question whether there is any humanity left in the world. It is only made worse by the fact that he was a non-combatant, although the terrible manner of his death would be an injustice to anybody, soldier or civilian. However I don't think it's fair to say the media have ignored it, is a major story, as was the murder of the four men in Falluja and the subsequent desecration of their bodies. It has been on many front pages and is top story on most bulletins, as has other instances of brutality directed at soldiers throughout the war and occupation.

This is yet another terrible story to emerge from Iraq, and these stories continue to show a military that, despite their best efforts, can have no hope of controlling the situation. The photos from Abu Ghraib prison show that they are resorting to desperate and deplorable measures to control a populace who no longer want them there. I do not want the troops in Iraq because the situation is too dangerous for them, I would prefer a hand over to a distinctly UN led security force designed to create order and to distance them from the image of occupiers.

I haven't watched the video because I don't want to see such brutality but I have read of its contents and that sickened me enough. However I don't want to go to Iraq and "kill every living thing there" as you put it because I know that this does not represent the majority of Iraqis. Arab television has been shocked by these images just as we have, and i have no doubt that they would never have wished for this to happen. It is at times like this that i feel that no punishment would be too bad for the perpetrators of this hateful crime. But at the same time i know that such a reaction would only lead to more injustices from Iraq on both sides. The wardens in Abu Ghraib prison betrayed their country and their values when they acted as they did towards Iraqi prisoners because those images have only inflamed the situation in Iraq and made more death almost inevitable which is unforgivable in my opinion. Their actions have only solidified the image of the Coalition troops as an invading force which is exactly what they should be trying to avoid as it will make the Iraqis more likely to revolt, the Iraqi people have been dominated for too long, particularly by foreigners (lets not forget that Saddam was put in power for American interests so it would be easy for them to blame his reign on America as well). I believe that what they want is to be masters of their own destiny, free from a tyrannical dictator, and free from a foreign military force; this can only be achieved with a complete handover to Iraqi control and the replacement of coalition troops with a more international security force.

Well, I'm not going to see that video - the description is bad enough for me. I wouldn't any sort of back lash at the Iraq people - it's fairly obvious why some people in Iraq would go to such lengths, even if it is so extreme. I agree with Twin that the UN should sort it out - I think the US needs to realise that they're not helping anything remaining there.

I saw a part on the news about it, but while it's horrible, it doesn't affect me terribly. Sadly i've already had an experience watching video clip of a person's head being cut off, which i will not explain the details and hope none of you ever go to the site where it is hosted.

yeah pat that was one terrible LAN party
Jason had some messed up videos

i think its disgusting that the father of this guy is saying Bush caused his son to die, when his son want even in the military

I heard that the guy who cut off the head had some connections with the U.S. I also heard some people say that it was a set up to get the americans to forget about the jail torturing. I dont think the CIA would actually kill one of their own men to try to brainwash the people but since Bush got in charge I would not doubt it.

I heard that the guy who cut off the head had some connections with the U.S. I also heard some people say that it was a set up to get the americans to forget about the jail torturing. I dont think the CIA would actually kill one of their own men to try to brainwash the people but since Bush got in charge I would not doubt it.
Nah, that's just rumors and ********.

Everyone talks about mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. No one on this forum has yet to talk about the injustices done to American, British and Coalition troops and civilians.
Probably cause a lot of Americans think that everyone non American is less civilized, so when Americans do something wrong, it shocks them more. But when an Arab does something wrong, they just think of them as less human and more monster.

You also have to remember we're in their country. It's not like they don't got a reason not to.

It is only made worse by the fact that he was a non-combatant
How many iraqi non-combatants were killed in the first persian gulf war? How many in this one?

The man admitted in Arabic that he was one of Osama bin Ladens top men.


Good Job night at being a terrorist sympathizer. You should get elected as the freshmen senator from Massaquidit, oops i mean Chappachusetts.

I actually watched the video, and there is somethings I found odd. One is that when the arabs are talking berg never moves, not a single inch. The arabs looked pretty impatient too.

http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm

yeah they were dancing around. the ones on the right were chatting.

it is like 4 minutes worth of BSing at the begining.

The man admitted in Arabic that he was one of Osama bin Ladens top men.


Good Job night at being a terrorist sympathizer. You should get elected as the freshmen senator from Massaquidit, oops i mean Chappachusetts.
LoL you are a funny guy :D . Thanks for that negative rep, I sent you some back myself :thumb .

well you deserved it for being a jack ***.

hey where in NYC live. I woudlnt mind meeting you somewhere and kicking your ***.

OMFG!!
:thumb Way to show off your class and maturity people.
Will I ever get to read a current event thread without some lame *** insulting people for their own opinions?

well you deserved it for being a jack ***.

hey where in NYC live. I woudlnt mind meeting you somewhere and kicking your ***.
Oh noes! Fear the skinny little white guy!

Moved to the debate forum, so that this thread can cool off. :)

well you deserved it for being a jack ***.

hey where in NYC live. I woudlnt mind meeting you somewhere and kicking your ***.
LMAO come on man, I seen your pic in the member photo section, you would not be much of a challenge.

Ahh yes. You've seen my pic from when i was 13 or so and fat.

Lots change in 3 and a half years.

It's funny how when a Muslim person does something bad the media and every other muslim says that their actions shouldn't be generalized to every Muslim in the world. But since this Iraqi prisoner torture thing broke, all of a sudden every American soldier is a out to torture every Iraqi they can get their hands on. Funny how that is isn't it? And think when have you heard anyone from any Arab country say they were wrong or sorry for something that was caused by Arabs?? Did they even appologize for the Towers? Besides those prisoners were in PRISON for a reason. And it's also funny how it's horrible how there was "torture" going on but noon was complaining when Saddam was killing people by throwing them in meat grinders. Where was your precious U.N. then you candy-azz liberal scum??

Well, people are trying to say, that the americans etc aren't all like that, but do the Iraqs care? If they didn't like them, they won't like them any more even if we said that. Like wise from our point of view - if you didn't like the Muslims, why should you like them if they said not to generalise? It's your own opinion - I think you're generalising this. :cool:
The priosners may not have been in priosn for a reason, or one that warented such torture, if you could say that any crime could deseve torture - which it doesn't. Some 'prisoners' were merely brought in to give info about suspected Iraqs, or those Iraqs that were suspected. they may not have done anything wrong at all.
When Saddam was operating his meat grinders, I'm sure the Iraqs didn't like it, and neither did anyone else. However, unlike Saddam, the US etc can do something about it - they are a civilised nation who could be said to be unlawfully occupying a country, wheras Saddam was their own head of state, and therfore slightly harder to get rid off, in theory.

I agree that what these people did was terrible and all, but keep in mind that it doesn't make what those stupid ****ers in that prison did to the Iraqis any less sick or wrong.

I loved your comment Warlord.

Your the man.

I tried giving you rep but it says "I need to spread it around." Oh well.

:rotflmao Thanks man :thumb